Monday, April 24, 1995
Vol. 31, No. 16, ISSN: 0511-4187
The president's news conference with President Cardoso of Brazil. (President
� April 20, 1995
� President Clinton. Good afternoon. Please be seated.
� I am delighted to welcome President Cardoso to the White House. For
many years he has been one of the great leaders of the Americas.
Although he was only inaugurated in January, President Cardoso has been
authoritarianism at great personal risk to himself. More recently, he
led the battle for economic reform during his years as Finance
Minister, to reduce inflation, establish growth, and help Brazil
fulfill the tremendous promise of its people and its land.
� Today the President told me about his economic and constitution
reform efforts, which are essential to placing Brazil on the path of
sustainable development. I have every confidence in the President's
ability to strengthen Brazilian democracy and to advance the visionary
economic reforms he began as Finance Minister.
� Brazil played a key role in forging the historic agreement at last
year's Summit of the Americas. Today, President Cardoso and I discussed
how we could build on that success. We also discussed bilateral trade
issues, and we reaffirmed our commitments to open our markets to each
other's products. With 160 million consumers, Brazil is one of today's
biggest emerging markets, and it offers great opportunity for
� We know that one of the ways we will do this is to realize our common
2005. We have instructed Ambassador Kantor and Foreign Minister
Lampreia to review trade relations between our nations,as well as
those between the NAFTA and the MERCOSUR countries, to consider ways to
expand the flow of goods and capital between our nations. One step will
be the first meeting this June of the United States Brazil Business
Development Council, which will bring together private sector leaders
to increase investment and trade in both our nations.
� On security issues, we had a very good discussion about the need to
stand firm together against terrorism. We reviewed the effort by the
Rio Protocol Guarantors to find a lasting solution to the conflict
between Peru and Ecuador over their borders. Progress has been made in
implementing a ceasefire, now we must find an enduring settlement. I
congratulate, again, President Cardoso on his outstanding leadership in
helping to resolve this conflict. And the United States has been proud
to have Americans working with Brazilians there to try to make sure we
bring the conflict to a satisfactory conclusion.
� Let me say that, finally, we also reviewed our common efforts against
narcotics and money laundering. We agreed to begin a dialog on
to try to assist that effort in Brazil. And our governments will
exchange ideas on reforming international financial institutions to
meet the challenges of the 21st century.
� I must say, I was especially impressed by the ideas that President
Cardoso and the members of his administration have shared with us on
the changes we need to make in the international institutions so that
we can get the benefit of the globally integrated markets that we all
want to benefit from without having too much instability undermine the
march to progress.
� With our two great nations cooperating as never before, we stand at a
moment of unparalleled opportunity. We must now seize it, and we will
seize it. We will promote democracy. We will advance prosperity. We
will do it together. In the months and years ahead, I look forward to
working with President Cardoso to forge an even stronger partnership
between our nations and our peoples. We should do it. It is in our
interest to do it, and it is the right thing for our hemisphere and for
the world to do it.
� Thank you, Mr. President.
� President Cardoso. Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen, it was a
great honor to be received by President Bill Clinton today. I know that
this is a day of grief for this country, and I take this opportunity to
extend to all Americans the solidarity of the Brazilian people. To you,
President Clinton, I convey a personal message of support and
encouragement. Mr. President, I repeat what I said this morning: In my
view, this terrorist act affects not only America, it affects all of us
who believe in peace and democracy and in freedom for all.
� During our meeting, I had a chance to express to you my personal
friendship and the admiration that Brazil has for his permanent
commitment to the cause of peace, prosperity, and democracy.
� I had the privilege of meeting President Clinton during the Miami
summit, his initiative that he revealed his statesmanship and his
vision of a better future for the Americas.
� Today, as we discussed the prospects for our hemisphere, I had the
chance to assure him that the same spirit of cooperation that guided my
implementing of its results.
� I had also the chance to bring to the American people the message of
a country that went through deep transformations and that today
presents itself to the world as a solid democracy, a strong economy,
and a vigorous and free society. This new country is a natural partner
of the U.S., and I stressed to President Clinton that the time is right
for the design of a new affirmative agenda that will bring our two
countries even closer together.
� And I must say that it was really highly impressive by the kind words
by President Clinton and by the spirit in our discussions. We have so
many values in common. We have a similar political will. We have the
support of our people to work together in reaffirming our commitment to
reforms, to bring to our countries better conditions of life, and to go
ahead with democracy.
� I would like to add, Mr. President, that Brazil will support also the
effort under the umbrella of the Organization of American States toward
democracy and the specific program you referred to, and that Brazil
and Brazil is ready to assume more responsibilities at the world level
in order to go ahead with the programs of peacekeeping and to do the
best of our effort to really keep a world of peace.
� Already in this context of this new agenda, Ambassador Lampreia, as
you said, and Ambassador Kantor are being instructed to prepare a study
of trade relations between Brazil and the United States with the
objective of improving the flow of goods, services, and capital between
our countries. In this same area, we agreed that the first meeting of
the Brazil-U.S. Business Development Council shall take place in Denver
this June, cochaired by Ambassador Lampreia and by Secretary Brown, in
bringing together private sector representatives. I am confident that
this first meeting will be a very important opportunity to increase
even further the economic relations between our two countries.
� In the discussion of the main themes of the international agenda, I
expressed to President Clinton my view that the same democratic values
that had proven its strength with the end of cold war should now guide
us in the effort of building a new international order. Democracy
should be the cornerstone, not only inside each society but also among
in which the revision of the San Francisco Charter will be discussed.
� I also had the chance to express to President Clinton our
long-standing commitment to the cause of nonproliferation and peace.
This commitment has a very concrete translation in our decision to
ratify and fully implement the Tlatelolco Agreement, and also in the
creation of the Brazilian Space Agency. In our commitment by the
executive branch to abide by the MTCR guidelines in the approval of the
Quadrapartheid Nuclear Safeguards Agreement.
� The very positive working meeting that I had the privilege to hold
this morning with President Clinton is only a first step taken toward
the strengthening of a new relationship that built upon a solid base of
shared values will be decisive to make real the dream of a prosperous,
fair, and free hemisphere for all of us.
� Thank you very much.
� President Clinton. Thank you.
� Terry [Terence Hunt, Associated Press].
� Oklahoma City Bombing
� Q. Mr. President, the bombing in Oklahoma City has left many
Americans wondering if it can happen in the Nation's heartland, can it
happen in their hometown. What can you say to calm these fears? And in
particular, what can you say to the Nation's children, who have been
terrified by seeing other children killed?
� President Clinton. I would say, first of all, that we are working
very hard to strengthen the ability of the United States to resist acts
of terror. We have increased our efforts in law enforcement, through
the FBI and the CIA. We have increased our ability to cut off money
used for such purposes. We have increased our capacity to track the
materials that can be used to destroy people. I have sent legislation
to the Congress, as you know, that would increase this capacity even
further. I have done everything I could and our administration has to
bring home suspected terrorists for trial from Pakistan, from Egypt,
from the Philippines, from elsewhere. We are moving aggressively. Today
I have ordered new steps to be taken to secure Federal facilities
throughout the United States.
� I would say to the children of this country, what happened was a bad
thing, an evil thing, but we will find the people who did it, and we
will bring them to justice. This is a law-abiding country. And neither
the leaders nor the citizens of this country will permit it to be
paralyzed by this kind of behavior.
� Mexican Financial Crisis
� Q. I'd like to address this question to both President Cardoso and
President Clinton. You both mentioned today the spirit of Miami, the
economic integration of the Americas. Do you believe it's still
possible after the collapse of Mexico?
� President Cardoso. Should I answer in Portuguese or English? I will
answer in Portuguese because it could be immediately transmitted to
� [At this point, President Cardoso answered the question in
believe that what happened with Mexico is not an obstacle to go ahead
with the Miami spirit. The Miami spirit was a result of a long history
of good relationship among our peoples. And we believe that the
immediate reaction, patronized by President Clinton and then the
international support to Mexico, was a good example of the necessity of
still more alive spirit like the Miami summit did in order to solve
problems and crises which can occur from time to time, but together, we
will solve all these crises much more rapidly and much more
energetically than alone.
� President Clinton. I agree with that. I believe that, first of all,
that the problem in Mexico has caused severe problems for the people of
Mexico. It has also presented challenges to Brazil, to Argentina,
indeed, to the United States. But look at the long run. The countries
of our hemisphere are moving toward democracy, toward openness, toward
free competition. The more we work together, the less likely it is that
we will have future problems like we had in Mexico.
� So, if anything, if there is any lesson to be drawn here, it is that
strong together so that these events will not have the kind of shocking
impact they had in Mexico.
� Helen [Helen Thomas, United Press International].
� Oklahoma City Bombing
� Q. Mr. President, despite the horror of it all and the assumptions
that may or may not be true, don't you think that it's time now to warn
against hatred and violence against Middle Eastern stereotypes, just in
case, since we do have strong laws in this country, I believe, against
� President Clinton. I would like to make, if I might, two comments
with regard to that. Number one, I ask the American people not to jump
to any conclusions. We have two missions now. One is search and
rescue--search and rescue: We had a miraculous recovery of a teenage
girl just hours ago, and we have six special teams from FEMA that will
be on the ground today to continue this. The second is investigate. We
have 200--200 FBI agents on the scene and hundreds of other people all
� Then I would say, in response to your question, there were three
Arab-American organizations which today condemned what was done. This
is not a question of anybody's country of origin. This is not a
question of anybody's religion. This was murder. This was evil. This
was wrong. Human beings everywhere, all over the world, will condemn
this out of their own religious convictions. And we should not
� What we need to do is to find out who did this and punish them
harshly. That's what we need to do. The American people should know
that the best investigators in the world are working to find the truth.
Let us support search and rescue and investigation and deal with the
facts as we find them.
� Bretton Woods Institutions
� Q. I'd like to direct my question to both Presidents. After the
Mexican crisis, both governments, Brazil and the United States, talked
means to react in those circumstances. I would like to know what you
have discussed in that regard. And to President Clinton, since the
United States and the G-7 countries seems to continue to be in no
position to increase of capital of the IMF, how can the G-7 countries
achieve that objective without providing the money to the institution?
� President Cardoso. Well, in fact--have discussed a little, that
point, and it seems to us, I would say, that the time is coming to take
some important decision in that area. It's not easy. You know, the
Bretton Woods institutions are now approaching the 50th anniversary. So
it's time to implement some changes. We are discussing these changes. I
had some ideas. I presented to President Clinton these ideas which are
not, you know, unexpected ideas. Everybody knows that it is important
to--maybe to give more leverage to the IMF to act more promptly and to
solve these emergency problems. I'm convinced that the G-7 will take
the issue, and I am waiting for additional initiatives, and Brazil
is--will be ready to cooperate in these kind of initiatives.
� President Clinton. Let me say, I strongly believe that there must be
some changes. And I urged the G-7 countries last year, when we met in
international financial institutions to meet the challenges of the
present global economy.
� Furthermore, if we expect the IMF and the World Bank to tell
countries, "Look you must reform your economy; you must even be
prepared to have the hard fumes that discipline sometimes brings in the
short run to help prosperity in the long run," then surely we must have
some capacity to cushion the same countries that are prepared to make
those sacrifices against unforeseen and dramatic adverse changes that
the underlying economic circumstances do not warrant. So we are looking
� But I think that it is important for me as President of the United
States not to commit myself at this early juncture to specific reforms
until after I have a chance to consult with all the other countries
with whom we should work, not just the G-7 countries but the emerging
economies, the powerful countries of the future, like Brazil, who lived
through this system and have very good ideas about how to change it.
� Yes, Brit [Brit Hume, ABC News].
��Q. Two things, sir. First, how concerned are you that this incident
in Oklahoma will be seen by those who feel that the United States
should not have the kind of far-flung diplomatic and military
undertakings that it does, that this is the kind of thing that happens
when a nation, as some would say, meddles in the affairs of others? And
second, if you know anything about it, sir, there's a wire service
report that the British Interior Ministry says that a possible suspect
in this case is--is being, or has been returned to the United States.
� Thank you.
� President Clinton. First, let me say, I would hope the American
people would draw exactly the opposite conclusion from this. Our future
lies in an open society, a free economy, and the freeinterchange of
people of ideas and goods. In that kind of world, we cannot withdraw
from the world, nor can we hide.
� Look what happened in Argentina. No one thinks the Argentines are out
country can hide. We have to stand up, fight this kind of madness, and
take appropriate steps.
� Moreover, I will say again, we do not know who the perpetrator is.
Technology gives power to people to do this sort of thing. Look at what
happened in Japan, where there was no outside influence, but a radical
group within Japan, able to take a little vial of gas and kill large
numbers of people, this having happened twice now.
� So the lesson for my fellow citizens should be, we're going to stand
with freedom-loving people throughout the world, like President
Cardoso, who despise this sort of evil, and we're going to stamp it
out. And we're going to protect our people.
� Now as to the second question. Let me say again, I was briefed last
night at midnight, I was briefed this morning, early in the morning. I
know what the status of our efforts are. They are intense and they are
comprehensive. But I do not believe we should be commenting on an
ongoing investigation. And at the appropriate time, the Justice
Department will say whatever it is that should be said.
efforts which have been made in this area since it occurred yesterday
morning. They have been awesome, intense, comprehensive, and dogged.
But I will not comment on the specific aspects of the investigation
until the Justice Department determines it's appropriate to do.
� Brazilian Patent Legislation
� Q. I would like to direct the question to both Presidents. If the
Brazilian Congress does not approve the intellectual property bill
before the deadline for the USTR to start a new phase of investigation
on Brazil, what course of action does each of you intend to take?
� President Cardoso. Well, you know, the Brazilian Congress is a
sovereign Congress. It can take the time it believes is necessary to
discuss a bill. As you know, Brazilians know, the Brazilian Government
has a clear idea and is exposing its own ideas to the Congress--is
insisting on the necessity of a bill to protect intellectual rights.
Also for Brazilians, we're having at that point in time, there are many
Brazilians who are urging, you know, the approval of this bill because
they have no possibility to ask the Brazilian Bureau to do it, because
we don't have yet a law.
� So I am convinced that the Congress will approve the bill as soon as
possible. I'm expecting for this semester, the last vote in the Senate,
and then back to the House--but the House has only one choice--assume
that the Congress--that Senate added good things and then approve the
amendments made by the Senate, or approve the law which has been
already approved by the House.
� So it's a matter of some--a couple of weeks or months, and this is
important for Brazil, is not for United States. It is important for
Brazil because we are integrating at the global level the economy, and
we need to protect our own interests through this bill.
� President Clinton. Well, as you know, we have certain laws in this
country we have to follow. But I am absolutely convinced after this
meeting today that the President wants to pass that legislation. And I
agree with him that the main beneficiary of that legislation would not
be the United States or other nations trading with Brazil. It would be
� It is important that everyone in Brazil understands you are rapidly
becoming not only a very great economy but a very sophisticated one. A
product manufactured by Brazil is now going to be part of the space
shuttle. You need--if you're going to be a high-tech producer of
sophisticated and diverse products, you must have a strong patent law.
Yes, it will protect our intellectual property, but more importantly,
it will enable you to continue to grow your economy.
� Rita [Rita Braver, CBS News].
� Oklahoma City Bombing
� Q. I know we're quite early on in the investigation on Oklahoma City,
but Janet Reno has already said that the U.S. would seek the death
penalty. I wondered if she did that with your concurrence. And also, if
the United States should find that another country was behind this,
should we expect military retaliation?
� President Clinton. I must not and I must urge you not to speculate on
course of the investigation. Let us wait and see what the facts are.
� In response to your first question, she did say that with my
knowledge and support. Just a few--oh, maybe in a couple of hours after
this incident occurred, after we reviewed all the things that we could
do to work on the search and rescue mission I asked specifically
whether the crime bill we passed provided for capital punishment in
cases like this. If this isn't an appropriate case for it I don't think
there ever would be one. And I strongly support what she said.
� We'll take--take one last question--
� [At this point, a question was asked in Portuguese, and no
translation was provided.]
� Brazilian Infrastructure
� President Cardoso. The point raised is that Brazil needs something
like $70 billion in the coming 4 years just to enlarge its
infrastructure, and we have passed a bill on services concessions. By
years to approve the bill. And now, what is required is a set of rules
by the executive branch in order to clarify how to do it.
� This is, at this point in time, we have a draft for this Executive
order, and it is a matter of weeks and the Brazilian Government will
approve these rules. And of course, the Brazilian economy is open to
foreign investors through this mechanism of concessions--concessions
law, but also, we are going ahead with our privatization program. As I
said yesterday, the Brazilian-American Chamber of Commerce, we are
ready to ask for more foreign capital in several areas.
� It depends in some areas, yet from our constitutional reform, and we
are moving fast in that direction. I expect for the next month the
approval of the constitutional amendments as sent to' the Congress
regarding economic order. As you know, President Clinton,
constitutional amendments requires enormous debates at the Congress,
and it takes time. To my view, what is going now on in Brazil is the
Congress reacting very quickly because they are about to vote the first
one of these amendments in a manner of maybe some days, and this will
be a record. I am absolutely confident that the Brazilian Congress will
approve what is needed for the Brazilian economic improvement.
� That's all.
� Oklahoma City Bombing
� President Clinton. I agree with that.
� Let me--we have to conclude. I want to make sure that I have been
very clear on the question, Rita, that you asked. You asked, well, what
if we find out someone did it affiliated with another country. I don't
want anyone to assume that we are accusing anybody or anything today.
We do not know.
� On the other hand, let me reiterate what I said yesterday. Whoever
did it, we will find out, and there will be justice that will be swift
and certain and severe. And there is no place to hide. Nobody can hide
any place in this country; nobody can hide any place in this world,
from the terrible consequences of what has been done. This was an
attack on innocent children, on innocent victims, on the people there
in Oklahoma City. But make no mistake about it, this was an attack on
whoever did it, we will get to the bottom of it, and then we'll take
the appropriate action.
� Thank you very much.
� Note: The President's 94th news conference began at 12 52 p.m. in the
Rose Garden at the White House. In his remarks, he referred to
Brazilian Foreign Minister Luiz Filipe Lampreia.